Because he's appeared in so much non-canon material outside of the main series, it can be not easy to get a solid grasp of his actual powerーhowever. [[Category:{{{1}}}|Bardock vs King Vegeta - who is stronger?]]. Bardock's Final Spirit Cannon just doesn't come close to that. they made up entirely new lines that werent even close to what was in the original. When he and Vegeta first fought in the Tournament of Destroyers, Vegeta remarked that he and Cabba were evenly matched in their base forms. Have you not seen the special? G_O_G_E_T_A. but hes the king for a reason. King Vegetas was stated to be above that. NEXT: Dragon Ball Z: 10 Ways The Movies Contradict The Canon. Oh yeah, Bardock's stronger than King Vegeta. King Vegeta's power was surpassed by Vegeta when he was a kid, and I highly doubt that Kid Vegeta didn't increase his strength that much from as a kid to a guy in his early 30s. Bardock might have been strong enough to lead his own fighting force, but apparently, he wasn't strong enough to accompany Vegeta and Nappa on missions. hell they add talking when there was SILENCE in the japanese dub. Have you guys never watched the new Bardock special? If she and Bardock ever sparred, her unpredictable, reckless style of fighting would overwhelm him, and he'd be left with no choice but to bust out his Final Spirit Cannon. bardock has never been compared to king vegeta, only that bardock is "almost 10 000". Bardock's gone on to become one of the most popular Saiyan warriors in the series, not only appearing in countless videogames but also going on to have two specials detailing his exploits before and after Planet Vegeta's destruction. King Vegeta led a genocidal camp… King Vegeta was even stated to be stronger... Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. If he was weekly than Bardock he not to be King!All simple! Bardock wouldve been killed in one punch to. ~Son Goshen~, 1. The line that Bardock's gonna surpass King Vegeta if he keeps this up could have just been a figure of speech or exaggeration to show how rapidly he was increasing in power. Frieza wasn't impressed by Bardock and his team. Bardock has a pretty good chance of beating Vegeta by skill, since Bardock is really strategic when it comes to fighting (read that somewhere... don't remember where...) ~Son Goshen~, No there not. If we take that, which is offiial information, into account, then there's no discussion at all. Base Edit. In Age 737, shortly before attempting to openly rebel against Frieza, King Vegeta orders newborn Broly to be executed due to his extremely high power level of 10,000, as this amount of power was seen as a possible threat to the royal Saiyan family. So Bardock's Power Level was 10,000 King Vegeta's was somewhere above 10,000 probably 15,000. until you accept that toei and akira toriyama are the only legit creators of dragon ball, get out of this fanbase. However, with strategy and Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, they were able to win. King Vegeta(ベジータ王,Bejīta Ō) was the king of allSaiyansand the father ofVegetaandTarble. As the ruler of the Saiyans, there's no question that King Vegeta would wipe the floor with Bardock at the time of his death. Bardock. he was statated as below 10 000. not around it. King Vegeta was able to hold his position for so long unchallenged because he was the strongest Saiyan at the time of his rule, which is why his son already possessed an insane power level at such a young age. I remember Vegeta saying that he was stronger than his father even as a child but that could have been hyperbole as well. After he demonstrated his instinctive capability for battle and ever-increasing power that enabled him to keep up with god-level warriors, there's no question that he's a lot stronger than Bardock, and probably was for most of his life. lol they dont need to state it. Even as a young boy, he was leagues above Bardock. Lssj4 11:06, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I say that alot don't I lol.Supreme Gohan 09:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Realize King Vegeta is the King of Saiyans. Vegeta: 12,000. the portugese dub also got everything wrong. While Bardock couldn't even handle Frieza in his First Form, Gohan was not only able to pressure Frieza's Third Form as a young child but went toe-to-toe with his Final Form for a brief moment, powering up and smacking Frieza around as though he were the Super Saiyan! Since Cabba was stronger than Bardock, there's no question that Caulifla is as well. Bardock.He could atleast face Frieza King Vegeta would die fighting Frieza's men and vegeta surpassed his on father. Nappa: 6,500. Bardocks was 10,000. Lssj4 16:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Krillin uses strategy to win most of his battles! The Bardock special is canon if you want it to be. not beyond it. I wont believe you. Power levels are really inaccurate, so you can't just compare King Vegeta and Bardock's power level. Zorn: 6,000. Lssj4 11:01, June 14, 2011 (UTC). It can be difficult to get a solid grasp of Bardock's powerーhowever, fans can gauge who is stronger than him by pitting him against other characters. the scientists said he was almost 10 000. So King Vegeta must be between 10,000 and 18,000. King Vegeta was able to hold his position for so long unchallenged because he was the strongest Saiyan at the time of his rule, which is why his son already possessed an insane power level at such a young age. Will you stop harrasing everyone trying to say their wrong because they go by the english version not the stupid jap version? He also has a large crest on the seat of his throne. But if the question is who were stronger before Planet Vegeta was destroyed, the obvious answer is King Vegeta. below it. 2. Lssj4 16:13, June 21, 2011 (UTC). Just some random fan who does'nt like the english dub so they call it fake. whereas he had to personally deal with king vegeta. It seems that Bardock is mostly in charge when it comes to personality, but mentally King Vegeta is in charge. Since he was a child when he went past his father I would say that King Vegeta’s power level was around the late 12,000/13,000-to possibly 14,000. In a special what-if scenario entitled Episode of Bardock, he ended up becoming the first Super Saiyan. Howev… Who knows for sure.... pretty sure he was weaker than Vegeta. King Vegeta was strong but against first form frieza...well he was 4 times weaker than nail. Nappa had the ability to wipe entire cities out with the flick of his wrist. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! At that point in the story, Vegeta's base form was so strong that he was able to obliterate someone as strong as Captain Ginyu with just one attack, and could even go hand-to-hand with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks without the need to transform (as shown when Copy Vegeta went up against the young fused warrior). Once they'd get close to the Ginyu force's level of power he could start considering disposing of them. After his people were annexed byFrieza'sFrieza Force, he had no choice but to pledge allegiance, but still kept power over his people. It is likely that Bardock was the most powerful lower-class Saiyan soldier of his time. So Bardock's Power Level was 10,000 King Vegeta's was somewhere above 10,000 probably 15,000. bardock was a low class who almost died a whole lot. you act like bardock planned all along to go alone. Bardock: 10,000 Bardock's Teammate: 5,000 Gine: 500 Kakarot: 12 (Frieza Arc; in vision): 1,000,000 Frieza (First Form): 530,000 King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). If Bardock were threatening to surpass him, King Vegeta probably would have done away with him like he did Broly. Even before Cabba knew how to transform into a Super Saiyan, he was already leagues above Bardock. Initially, Goku struggled to defeat normal Earthlings like Yamcha, Master Roshi, and Tien, all characters that Bardock would defeat without even trying. His power level is equal to both of there power levels combined. JordanTH 15:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC), But Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon power level was above 1,200 it was like 1,308 or something like that. They're close in power with King Vegeta in the lead. Kakarot, a low-class warrior sent to another planet because of his pitiful initial power... Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Making him stronger discussion closed.Lssj4 12:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I disagree. Of course King Vegeta is stronger than Bardock! Dragon Ball: 10 Saiyans Stronger Than Bardock, Dragon Ball: 10 Best Filler Episodes (That Should Be Canon). In the saiyan saga Vegeta was like 18,000. the english dub is fake. And he did die in a single punch, sort of like how Bardock was completely dissentigrated by the Supernova. not once. Howl – One of Great Ape King Vegeta's Blast 1 in Budokai Tenkaichi 3. It was stated that Bardock was ALMOST as strong as King Vegeta not vice versa, but he wasnt not yet. my opinion isnt fact. do not use the english dub as evidence. I place more merit on Bardock, though, because he has more battle experience of late, whereas King Vegeta sat on his butt the last few years of his life after winning the War vs the Tuffles. No one cares if you think its inaccurate or not.Lssj4. King Vegeta would die in a single punch. An English major from the University of Virginia and an active member in New York's television scene, he enjoys meeting people who care about telling good, tasteful stories. If you watched the first few episodes of DBZ then you can tell that power levels change a lot, courtesy of Raditz. According to the Japanese dub (the only one that should be considered), Bardock's power level is near 10.000 - since Vegeta is the king, he must be above that. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions King Vegeta(ベジータ王,Bejīta Ō) was the king of allSaiyans and the father ofVegetaandTarble. Did you watch the jap one at all? dub line. Frieza's power level was 530,000, so if you compare 10,000 to that, anyone who had that power level doesn't stand a chance against Frieza's first form. Raditz was considerably stronger then both Goku and Piccolo, after all. Despite being regarded as a mid-class Saiyan warrior, he gave Piccolo and Goku the most challenging fight of their lives up until that point. While Bardock was sent to conquer entire worlds with a handful of other Saiyans, Vegeta was sent on missions to do the same thing completely on his own, a sign of his raw destructive power and fighting ability that would later lead him to greatness. --DARK 17:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC). Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! I think in the sub all they said was Bardock's power level was closing in on 10k. really? i dont think its innaccurate. theres no doubt bardock could not face up to frieza. King Vegeta looks very much like Vegeta himself, only with a beard and brown hair (unlike all other saiyans) and is much taller. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Bardock_vs_King_Vegeta_-_who_is_stronger%3F?oldid=1044640. not one line is translated correctly. its the original, the source, the real dbz as it should be watched. How much stronger? Unfortunately, in Bardock - The Father of Goku, both Saiyans went down easily when they were up against Frieza's First Form, which speaks more to how superior he was to the Saiyans rather than their own strength relative to one another. Bardock would win becuase he was the only one who stood up the Freiza. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! Also please sign your post. Later, Bardock is seen defeating Toobi and Cabira, two soldiers of Chilled's army with ease. that was a dub line and they dont count. The Saiyans were never going to even get close to Ginyu's PL; That is a dub line. Bardock was just a Low-Class Warrior who got a zenkai and they said if he keeps this up he will be almost as strong as King Vegeta, no they never ever said that. So you only enforced what I said in my previous post. Goten and Trunks are rarely seen tackling an enemy independently, choosing to fuse into Gotenks whenever they're presented with a challenge. frieza didnt even care about his presence. But dont try to make your opinion as fact. King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). how crappy is that? Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Sure, if he went up against Frieza's Supernova, he'd easily be brushed aside as well, but his close association with Vegeta showed that he was no pushover. Either way, here are plausible answers. In Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku, the doctors working on Bardock after his injury sustained on Planet Kanassa state that Bardock's power level is nearing 10,000 and But whether it's Goten, Trunks, or Gotenks doing the fighting, Bardock would lose every single time. Both King Vegeta and Bardock had a power level of ten thousand in their base forms, but the fusion multiplied their power to over a million, proving that if they were much stronger they could become much more powerful when fused as one. RELATED: Dragon Ball: 10 Best Filler Episodes (That Should Be Canon). At the time Planet Vegeta still existed, Bardock was in the upper ranks as far as low-class warriors can go. the english dub is completely bastardised and wrong. my facts are facts. Lssj4 16:11, June 21, 2011 (UTC), Oh not to mention sign your post. Isnt bardock stronger with all those near death situations? Also he is a strong warrior he was the strongest Saiyan he lost to Frieza because he is so much stronger then them. During the Tournament of Power, her inexperience became her worst enemy; despite having the raw strength, Goku, who was much wiser and seasoned as a martial artist, maintained a steady upper hand until Kale jumped in to provide her with assistance. King Vegeta: 11,000. funimation did not translate anyting. Case closed. Gohan always possessed a latent, hidden power that was teased throughout Dragon Ball Z, but the moment he would've surpassed Bardock in terms of power most likely would've occurred sometime during the Namek Saga. Kakarot: 2. lol. 1. That's a pretty big gap, I know lol. Also, who is the strongest Saiyan in the end of Dragon Ball Z? it proves nothing. Just like Yamcha's stronger than Super Buu. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Goten and Trunks became the youngest Super Saiyans in history. Until you provide a TRUE SOURCE of Akira Toriyama or Toei Animation stating that or FUNimation admitting that their dub is inaccurate and wrong. King vegeta power vs bardock exp is what is comes down to. its basically fanfiction with the amount of garbage funi pulled out of their asses. I don't recall King Vegeta's power level to be explicitly stated, but I would assume stronger than Bardock because he's King. In Dragon Ball games like Super Dragon Ball Heroes and Xenoverse 2, he managed to excel all the way to Super Saiyan 3. His power level is stated to be around 10,000. He wears the Vegeta Royal Family Crest on the left side of his armor, as did Prince Vegeta as a child. Is this hypothetical situation before Bardock went back in time? King Vegeta, Bardock and a group of Saiyans were in front of Frieza's spaceship fighting off boards of Frieza's foot soldiers before Bardock broke free and shouted ... Now for power levels! After his people were annexed by King Cold's Cold Army he had no choice but to pledge allegiance, but still kept power over his people; this continued into the Saiyans' time under Frieza's Frieza Force, until the tyrant slaughtered them. At this point in the story, Goku has far surpassed Bardock, becoming the first Super Saiyan God in centuries. In Bardock, The Father of Goku, near the time of his fateful battle with Frieza, Bardock had a power level of 10,000, which is said to rival that of King Vegeta. He further surpassed Bardock during his training en route to Namek, where unbeknownst to him, he became strong enough to last a few rounds with Frieza in his Final Form. You can follow him on Instagram @yungvelly. So we technically don't know what King Vegeta's PL was. Raditz: 490. King Vegeta's power level is unknown, as it was never actually stated. no he wasnt. In the span of a few minutes, she progressed from Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan 2, showing great potential to adapt to situations on the fly quickly. Exactly no one. Though considered as low-class, Bardock is said to have to power level of 10,000 and was close to surpassing the power of King Vegeta himself. Unfortunately for him, Caulifla would be able to deflect his strongest move without even trying. This is a list of known and official Power Levels (戦闘力, Sentōryoku, lit.Combat Power) in the Dragon Ball universe.All of the levels on this list are taken from the manga, anime, movies, movie pamphlets, Daizenshuu guides, video games and stated mathematical calculations. did they need talking every 5 seconds? They where more efficient than Vegeta and his team appearantly since Frieza was actually impressed by them. Power Levels: no it wasnt. Vegeta and his elite all fought Frieza. Power Level. Stop cursing its against the rules of the wiki. or a bullshit innacurate dub line designed to confuse people. The power levels where stated so its final. King Vegeta vs. Bardock Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. It shows the he was the actual first Super Saiyan, the beginning of the legend! Fans can gauge who is stronger than him by pitting him against other characters. He seemed proud to know this his eldest son had been chosen to go on a mission alongside Vegeta, who definitely didn't have Saiyan riffraff hanging around him. Bardock Special Bardock = Closing in on 10k King Vegeta = 10K reported. i KNOW. His mind started whirring with all kinds of thoughts. As a Saiyan warrior, it was remarked that he was far less powerful than his son Vegeta was even as a child. 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